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<description><![CDATA[<p>A US Muslim male in the company of his wife dressed in this fashion is not a “moderate Muslim” but, instead, someone to be watched quite carefully. I first wrote about the myth of the so-called “moderate Muslim” here, when … <a href="https://bloviatingzeppelin.net/the-myth-of-the-moderate-muslim-pt-ii/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">→</span></a></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #0000ff;"><em>A US Muslim male in the company of his wife dressed in this fashion is not a “moderate Muslim” but, instead, someone to be watched quite carefully.</em></span></p>
<p>I first <a href="http://bloviatingzeppelin.net/the-myth-of-the-moderate-muslim-in-america/">wrote about the myth of the so-called “moderate Muslim” <span style="text-decoration: underline;">here</span></a>, when it was revealed by the Center For Security Policy that “of 600 <a href="http://bloviatingzeppelin.net/the-basics-of-islam/"><span style="text-decoration: underline;">Muslims</span></a> living in the United States, significant minorities embrace supremacist notions that could pose a threat to America’s security and its constitutional form of government.”</p>
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<p>But wait; those “moderate American Muslims” you’re told are good and tolerant people — and are in your community?</p>
<blockquote><p><span style="color: #008000;">According to the just-released survey of Muslims, <b>a majority (51%) agreed that “Muslims in America should have the choice of being governed according to shariah.”</b> When that question was put to the broader U.S. population, the overwhelming majority held that shariah should not displace the U.S. Constitution (86% to 2%).</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #008000;"><b>More than half (51%) of U.S. Muslims polled also believe either that they should have the choice of American or shariah courts, or that they should have their own tribunals to apply shariah.</b> Only 39% of those polled said that Muslims in the U.S. should be subject to American courts.</span></p></blockquote>
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<p>Two more very important paragraphs from my first blogpost about the myth of the “moderate Muslim in America:</p>
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<blockquote><p><span style="color: #008000;">Even more troubling, is the fact that <b>nearly </b><b>a quarter of the Muslims polled believed that, “It is legitimate to use violence to punish those who give offense to Islam by, for example, portraying the prophet Mohammed.”</b></span></p></blockquote>
<p>Understand <em><strong>this</strong></em>, however:</p>
<blockquote><p><span style="color: #008000;"><b>Nearly one-fifth of Muslim respondents said that the use of violence in the United States is justified in order to make shariah the law of the land in this country.</b></span></p></blockquote>
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<p>Read that again. Violence is justified is justified to ensure shariah law.</p>
<p>So essentially, as <a href="http://www.wnd.com/2015/09/poll-most-u-s-muslims-would-trade-constitution-for-shariah/"><span style="text-decoration: underline;">WND.com wrote</span></a>,</p>
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<h1 class="posttitle"><span style="color: #008000;">Poll: Most U.S. Muslims would trade Constitution for Shariah</span></h1>
<h2 class="deck"><span style="color: #008000;">‘Quran should be highest authority in America, and Islam the only accepted religion’</span></h2>
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<blockquote><p><span style="color: #008000;">by Leo Hohmann</span></p>
<p><em><span style="color: #008000;">Ben Carson’s comment that he would not support a Shariah-compliant Muslim for president because Islamic law is incompatible with the U.S. Constitution led to the former brain surgeon’s roasting among media talkers and politicians of all stripes.</span></em></p>
<p><em><span style="color: #008000;">He has been excoriated as “anti-Muslim,” “bigoted,” even “anti-American” and unfit for office.</span></em></p></blockquote>
<p>With the exception, as I wrote here, is that Dr Carson merely states the truth because, as indicated repeatedly, Muslims in the US embrace Shariah Law over our own US Constitution and Bill of Rights. Further, where does the Muslim concept of “<a href="http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/548123/posts"><span style="text-decoration: underline;">taqiyah</span></a>” enter into the equation? If you are unfamiliar with that term, you’d best click on the link.</p>
<p>Further, Leftists embrace CAIR as they embrace the ACLU. Except that the ACLU doesn’t immediately want to kill you for religious reasons — say, if you’re a Christian.. Yet.</p>
<p>This is important because Omar Ahmad, one founder of CAIR — and CAIR makes no bones about its representation of Muslims in the United States of America — <a href="http://www.wnd.com/2015/09/poll-most-u-s-muslims-would-trade-constitution-for-shariah/"><span style="text-decoration: underline;">has said</span></a>, in “a conference hall packed with California Muslims in July 1998 that Islam isn’t in America to be equal to any other faith, but to become dominant. The Quran … should be the highest authority in America, and Islam the only accepted religion on earth.” ”</p>
<p>CAIR denied Ahmad made the statement and said the newspaper that printed his statement retracted it, but that was proven false. In other words, Ahmad told the truth and CAIR lied.</p>
<p>This is another telling paragraph itself.</p>
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<blockquote><p><span style="color: #008000;"><em>Ihsan Bagby of CAIR’s Washington office has said that Muslims “can never be full citizens of this country,” referring to the United States, “because there is no way we can be fully committed to the institutions and ideologies of this country,” Pipes reported in his 2006 article, “CAIR Islamists Fooling the Government.”</em></span></p></blockquote>
<p>Islam can be conflictive in its statements, but that is dependent upon its goals at the time of the statement. There is a general Muslim word called “<a href="http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/548123/posts"><span style="text-decoration: underline;">taqiyah</span></a>” representing the notion in Islam that Muslims should never tell the truth to infidels. You and me, Western Civilization, those <em>not</em> believing in Islam, <em>we</em> are the infidels. The unclean. The ones who, like the Borg, need to be converted or killed. Muslims are not ashamed to tell you this and to make the concept clear. Google the word and check its meanings and various spellings.</p>
<p>Islam will frequently tell you what it is thinking and what it wants. Many Muslims in America — a majority as indicated above — believe that Shariah Law is supreme over any other form of American law. That is very clear. On the other hand, Muslims have a duty to lie to infidels.</p>
<p>Therefore, Ahmad through CAIR, is representative of what Muslims in the US believe. You can come to no other conclusion. CAIR is happy to make the linkage itself. They make it quite clear they wish to represent Muslims in America. As noted above, a poll <em>already</em> indicates that a majority of sampled Muslims hold that Shariah Law should be the law of the United States.</div>
<p>Yes, I am certain there are moderate Muslims in America.</p>
<p>Just as I believe there are Muslims in America who <strong>do not</strong> practice Islam as demanded by the most devout and true of followers of Mohammad and of the Koran.</p>
<p><em>Those</em> are the “moderate Muslims” in America, who would not survive their practice in the Middle East. The Muslims who do not practice the Koran as strictly written. If you are a “moderate Muslim,” you’re not doing it right and you yourself may be in danger of an Islamic re-tuning.</p>
<p>If you point out a “moderate Muslim” to me, I’ll point out someone who cannot recite a minimum of five surahs and hasn’t been to a mosque in months or years, whose wife doesn’t wear hajib and who doesn’t not have a beard or fear Mohammad. Someone the rest of <em>non</em>-moderate Islam would consider too Westernized</p>
<p>Unless they are present in the US to blend in as they plot our infidel deaths.</p>
<p>There are the exceptions, you see.</p>
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<p>Asked whether suicide bombing can be justified as a measure to defend Islam, 26 percent of American Muslims age eighteen to twenty-nine said yes. That is one quarter of the adult American Muslims under the age of thirty, and no matter how you count the number of Muslims in America (estimates vary from 2 million to 8 million), that is a lot of people.</p>
<p>– <strong>Ayaan Hirsi Ali</strong><br />
<em>Somali-born American (formerly Dutch) activist, writer, and politician.</em></p>
<p><span style="color: #ff0000;"><strong>BZ</strong></span></p>
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<description><![CDATA[<p>And it is a myth. There now exist the statistics to prove it. Which begins to lend credence to the graphic below. Of course, it is not proper or politically correct to state the obvious when the obvious is screamed … <a href="https://bloviatingzeppelin.net/the-myth-of-the-moderate-muslim-in-america/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">→</span></a></p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://bloviatingzeppelin.net/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/Muslim-Who-Is-Moderate.jpg"><img class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-19494" src="http://bloviatingzeppelin.net/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/Muslim-Who-Is-Moderate.jpg" alt="Muslim Who Is Moderate" width="552" height="559" srcset="https://bloviatingzeppelin.net/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/Muslim-Who-Is-Moderate.jpg 552w, https://bloviatingzeppelin.net/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/Muslim-Who-Is-Moderate-296x300.jpg 296w" sizes="(max-width: 552px) 100vw, 552px" /></a>And it is a myth. There now exist the statistics to prove it. Which begins to lend credence to the graphic below.</p>
<p><a href="http://bloviatingzeppelin.net/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/Muslim-Radical-vs-Moderate.jpg"><img class="alignleft size-medium wp-image-19495" src="http://bloviatingzeppelin.net/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/Muslim-Radical-vs-Moderate-300x151.jpg" alt="Muslim Radical vs Moderate" width="300" height="151" srcset="https://bloviatingzeppelin.net/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/Muslim-Radical-vs-Moderate-300x151.jpg 300w, https://bloviatingzeppelin.net/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/Muslim-Radical-vs-Moderate.jpg 469w" sizes="(max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px" /></a>Of course, it is not proper or politically correct to state the obvious when the obvious is screamed to be stated — primarily by Islam itself.</p>
<p>The <a href="https://www.centerforsecuritypolicy.org/"><span style="text-decoration: underline;">Center for Security Policy</span></a> released the following information <a href="http://www.centerforsecuritypolicy.org/2015/06/23/nationwide-poll-of-us-muslims-shows-thousands-support-shariah-jihad/"><span style="text-decoration: underline;">just this last month on June 23rd</span></a>.</p>
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<h1 class="entry-title"><span style="color: #008000;">Poll of U.S. Muslims Reveals Ominous Levels Of Support For Islamic Supremacists’ Doctrine of Shariah, Jihad</span></h1>
<p><span style="color: #008000;"><a class="icon-term" style="color: #008000;" href="http://www.centerforsecuritypolicy.org/type/press-releases/">Press Releases</a> | <time class="date time published updated sc" datetime="2015-06-23T18:27:08+00:00">June 23, 2015</time> | <span class="categories sc"><a style="color: #008000;" href="http://www.centerforsecuritypolicy.org/category/shariah/muslim-brotherhood-in-america/" rel="category tag">The Muslim Brotherhood in America</a>, <a style="color: #008000;" href="http://www.centerforsecuritypolicy.org/category/shariah/understanding-shariah-threat-doctrine/" rel="category tag">Understanding the Shariah Threat Doctrine</a></span></span></p>
<p><em><span style="color: #008000;">According to a new nationwide online survey (Below) of 600 Muslims living in the United States, significant minorities embrace supremacist notions that could pose a threat to America’s security and its constitutional form of government.</span></em></p></blockquote>
<p>Read this very carefully, Americans. What is portrayed by your government and Leftists appears to be in direct contravention to the truth.</p>
<blockquote><p><span style="color: #008000;"><em>The numbers of potential jihadists among the majority of Muslims who appear not to be sympathetic to such notions raise a number of public policy choices that warrant careful consideration and urgent debate, including: the necessity for enhanced surveillance of Muslim communities; refugee resettlement, asylum and other immigration programs that are swelling their numbers and density; and the viability of so-called “countering violent extremism” initiatives that are supposed to stymie radicalization within those communities.</em></span></p>
<p><span style="color: #008000;"><em>Overall, the survey, which was conducted by The Polling Company for the Center for Security Policy (CSP), suggests that a substantial number of Muslims living in the United States see the country very differently than does the population overall. The sentiments of the latter were sampled in late May in <a style="color: #008000;" href="http://www.centerforsecuritypolicy.org/2015/06/02/the-american-public-understand-islamic-supremacism-better-than-their-leaders-doesnt-want-it-here/" target="_blank"><span style="text-decoration: underline;">another CSP-commissioned Polling Company nationwide survey</span>.</a></em></span></p></blockquote>
<p>But wait; those “moderate American Muslims” you’re told are good and tolerant people — and are in your community?</p>
<blockquote><p><span style="color: #008000;"><em>According to the just-released survey of Muslims, <b>a majority (51%) agreed that “Muslims in America should have the choice of being governed according to shariah.”</b> When that question was put to the broader U.S. population, the overwhelming majority held that shariah should not displace the U.S. Constitution (86% to 2%).</em></span></p>
<p><span style="color: #008000;"><em><b>More than half (51%) of U.S. Muslims polled also believe either that they should have the choice of American or shariah courts, or that they should have their own tribunals to apply shariah.</b> Only 39% of those polled said that Muslims in the U.S. should be subject to American courts.</em></span></p></blockquote>
<p>In this way Muslims appear to be something akin to the current occupants of the White House and DC: those pesky American laws simply don’t apply to <em>me</em>.</p>
<p>People who look upon Islam as nothing but another religion are duped and ignorant. Islam is much more than a mere religion; it is a way of life, a duty, a political entity, something that crosses all aspects of Muslim life. It crosses every aspect and influences and informs every decision made by a devout Muslim.</p>
<blockquote><p><span style="color: #008000;"><em>Even more troubling, is the fact that <b>nearly </b><b>a quarter of the Muslims polled believed that, “It is legitimate to use violence to punish those who give offense to Islam by, for example, portraying the prophet Mohammed.”</b></em></span></p></blockquote>
<p>Understand <em><strong>this</strong></em>, however:</p>
<blockquote><p><span style="color: #008000;"><b>Nearly one-fifth of Muslim respondents said that the use of violence in the United States is justified in order to make shariah the law of the land in this country.</b></span></p></blockquote>
<p>Note: please see the <a href="http://www.centerforsecuritypolicy.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/150612-CSP-Polling-Company-Nationwide-Online-Survey-of-Muslims-Topline-Poll-Data.pdf"><span style="text-decoration: underline;">complete poll here</span></a>.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.centerforsecuritypolicy.org/2015/06/23/nationwide-poll-of-us-muslims-shows-thousands-support-shariah-jihad/"><span style="text-decoration: underline;"> Frank Gaffney</span></a> writes:</p>
<blockquote><p><span style="color: #008000;"><em>The findings of the Center for Security Policy’s survey of Muslims in America suggests that we have a serious problem. The <span style="text-decoration: underline;"><a style="color: #008000; text-decoration: underline;" href="http://www.people-press.org/2011/08/30/section-1-a-demographic-portrait-of-muslim-americans/" target="_blank">Pew Research Center</a></span> estimates that the number of Muslims in the United States was 2.75 million in 2011, and growing at a rate of 80-90 thousand a year. If those estimates are accurate, the United States would have approximately 3 million Muslims today. That would translate into <b>roughly 300,000 Muslims living in the United States who believe that shariah is “The Muslim God Allah’s law that Muslims must follow and impose worldwide by Jihad.”</b></em></span></p></blockquote>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #0000ff;">“If telling the truth about something can get you killed, then that truth needs to be told again and again and again. And acting on that truth will save us.”</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #0000ff;">— <span style="text-decoration: underline;"><a style="color: #0000ff; text-decoration: underline;" href="http://fawstin.blogspot.com/2014/04/islam-got-your-tongue.html">Bosch Fawstin</a></span></span></p>
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