Why?
And why now?
And why so many countries?
BZ
P.S.
It’s time to leave Monterey Bay and the Monterey Bay Inn. Seven days and eight nights and we had a wondrous anniversary time. We’ll miss Berford the Seagull eyeballing us every morning:
And, of course, the beautiful bay itself replete with sea lions, otters, gulls, kelp and the crashing waves.
Time to drive home with all the other vacationers and prepare for the coming work week. We’ll miss the beautiful views and the gorgeous nights.
The broad hints are coming through.
In Egypt a Google Exec who has been in bed with the US State Dept. on changing Egypt was not allowed to speak in Tahrir Square. Prevented by the MB.
In Tunisia a counter-protest against Islamic violence took place and it started on Facebook.
What happens when you stir in Leftists and radicals like those from the MB? They each agree they hate the current system, but differ on the end-state. They cooperated in both Egypt and Tunisia and are now falling out with each other. Every Left-based revolution goes through the ‘making friends against common enemies’ phase and then the falling out right afterwards. That happened in Russia between the White and Reds, in Italy between the Blacks (the Fascisti coopted the Anarchist flag color which should have been brown, but went with their shirt color, instead) and Anarcho-Syndicalists, in Spain between the Reds, Browns and Anarcho-Syndicalists, and in Germany between the Reds and the Browns.
After overthrowing a regime the falling out begins, and after the White Communists were overthrown in Russia the Reds then went after the Red Guard. Similarly the Browns in Germany used the Reds to gain power, then had an assassination campaign against them, then dissolved their SA with the SS. The Blacks in Italy staged a civil war against the Anarcho-Syndicalists and regime elements. And the Spanish Civil War spun many different ways before a Brown general victory with White assent.
In Libya Kaddafi is using the ‘whiff of grapeshot’ concept, but may be too late in that. Bahrain has had hints that Iran, MB and Left all helped out, and KSA has an interest in the outcome, as well. Yemen was just recently re-united and has ethnic problems internally which is Sunni/Sunni, and between the traditionalists and the Wahabbist types. Hezbollah ‘won’ in Lebanon thus making it a vassal State of Iran, Syria is having internal problems and Iran, itself, is growing very unstable.
If this is the outcome of a half-assed ‘freedom agenda’ from the Bush Administration, then it is horrific in its scope once a Leftist President gets in power. The CIA at least did it quick and dirty… this is BS on a massive scale.
Iraq has had its problems, but shows that you can get multi-ethnic, multi-faction, multi-regligion cooperation under a vaguely secular government. It is not pretty. Yet it is now the best outcome that can be hoped for in any of the other States in the ME outside of Israel. Iraq in many ways is a model… not pretty, not sweet, pretty so-so as things go, but way, way better than KSA, Iran, Syria and what now goes on in Turkey & Lebanon.
The world is about to lose its oil supply from the ME. Iran has just about collapsed on oil production, and the radicals don’t know how to run an oil State. Then it will be lights out for western civilization. And the ME will implode as they depend on exterior food supplies and can’t run a modern agricultural system. Then the really long knives come out.
I think the short answer is the example of Iraq showed the Muslim commoners could get along without their potentates. the long answer is more complicated, as I don’t think those folks will use their freedom the same way the US or Israel used theirs. philosophy matters, the Israeli’s built a sustainable economy on their tiny sliver of desert and even export lots of foodstuffs from there, the Muslims I doubt ever will follow that example. they will just hate the success of the little and the great satan even more.
Good question, and an even better one is who is behind the scenes pulling the strings??? One has to wonder how many MORE non-muslim friendly administrations are going to be thrown under the bus by OUR current administration….
Must admit all of this has surprised me. My overall ignorance leads me to STFU until I learn more.
Guess I could pontificate without knowing what I’m talking about. Lots of examples of that to emulate.
Impressive comment, Jacksonian, but you didn’t mention one more peace of the puzzle – a weakened United States with a leader that no one, friend or foe, respects or listens to.
Chaos is here.
May God help us all.
cjh
AJ: and, at the same time, we can THANK the Religious Left for DEMANDING that we NOT rebuild our electrical generation system, our refineries, and that we NOT drill, tap and access what we already HAVE on our OWN soil and off our OWN shores. And it’s all about to be thrown right back into their faces and WHO will be the first to complain when they can’t do pilates in a warm room to ethereal music?
Mark: they hate success and they fear it though secretly they desire it. We know what happens behind closed doors.
NFO: as many as philosophy allows.
WSF: there are, I believe, many many reasons. . .
BZ
BZ, I have to admit, the strength and speed of this fire storm has surprised me. Is it a true uprising of freedom lovers? Or is it, and I feel that this is much more likely, a new tack that the islamofacists are using, understanding perhaps that their previous methods are not gaining them the ground that they previously thought it would.
Are they trading in their bomb vests for voices in the crowd? Could be. What bothers me most is the links between google and the Egypt uprising. Not to mention the links between google and the state department.
And as I mentioned a little while ago, it seems as though the contagion is trying to get a foot hold in some of the U.S.
Too bad you couldn’t have vacationed for two weeks, but I guess one must return to work to pay the bills.
From biblical standpoint, I believe we are seeing the end of times unfold.
From a worldly view, I am very concerned on who is behind all of the unrest in the Middle East. Muslims Brotherhood? Obama? Don’t know but I am worried.
cj: and that is a MASSIVE factor; the PURPOSEFUL decisions made by the US to relinquish power and to step aside.
Greywolfe: and me too sir. I hadn’t expected this all at once and in such a massive rush with so many countries.
Leticia: I would love to have acquired two weeks but this suite hauled up to $400 per night. However, I signed us up for two massage therapy treatments (90 mins) whilst we were there, and we availed ourselves of every darned restaurant in town. Plus, we saw more sea lions and otters than most people will see in their lifetimes on television. The room looked down upon a kelp bed where we would see our good and varied friends every morning. An amazing place, an amazing town. Bring money.
End times? One could certainly make that argument.
BZ
The next stage, assuming this one is generally successful in deposing the despots, will probably be to call for an end to previous national borders, many of which are, let’s face it, artificial impositions of British artifice to begin with. That’s the true end-game and the start of a new Islamic caliphate.
And of course, it will be onward to Jerusalem. This might be the start of a regional war, with a few holdouts amongst the despots aligning with Israel. Think Saudi Arabia, Jordan, maybe even Syria. It might not seem likely, but these guys will probably go to any extent to hold on to their power.
Because let’s face it, to the radical Islamists, Saudi Arabia is probably more of a priority than even Israel.
Hi Blo . . Anybody remember King Idris of Libya? I lived there in the mid 1950s when he was replaced by Ghad-affy. It wasn’t a step forward. At that time Libya just discovered oil but had not produced any. Nasser was threatening everybody. John Wayne came to town to film a movie. Remnants of a large Italian population were still around. It was hard to find a tree. Houses were made of mud and many roofs were held up by the chassis of old trucks. A large part of the population was blind or partially blind. An old man was about 40 years old. Is there a point? Yeah. Ghad-daffy made most everything worse!
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Leticia, I can remember my great grandmother making the statement,”We are in the end times.” That was back in the mid 70’s.
From a biblical standpoint, if you are truly a believer then do not fear. The Lord is in control of all this mess. Seek Him and listen to Him if He gives you any direction, then step out in fear, because of Him and who He is. God will make away for those who believe. He knows the plans that He has for us.