“After speaking with my lawyers” the hacker told Radar exclusively, “I was advised I could not legally sell these, and to get rid of them and turn in everything I had to FBI.”
Radar confirmed that Clinton had privately used the AOL-based account, and had chatted about everything from serious international subjects such as situations in Benghazi and Algeria, to lighter topics such as Valentine’s Day.
Further, the Techno Dude responsible for the actual setup of Hillary Rodham Clinton’s private email server system has decided that he is going to take the 5th regarding potential statements to the FBI and an investigatory committee. What? I don’t hear the sound of your jaw dropping in shock and dismay?
Exclusive: Former Clinton aide has rebuffed FBI and State Department investigators in email probe
by Michael Isikoff
The former aide to Hillary Clinton who helped set up and maintain her private email server has declined to talk to the FBI and the State Department inspector general’s office, as well as a congressional committee, invoking his Fifth Amendment rightnot to incriminate himself, sources familiar with the investigation confirmed to Yahoo News.
The move by Bryan Pagliano, who served on Clinton’s 2008 campaign and later as a technology officer in the State Department, to decline to cooperate in two federal probes considerably raises the stakes in the Clinton email investigation, the sources said. It confronts the Justice Department with a decision about whether to grant him immunity in exchange for his testimony — a move that could be taken only were the department to escalate the probe into a full-scale criminal investigation, the sources said.
What that means is: at this point, Pagliano cannot be compelled to testify if he leans on the 5th Amendment regarding self-incrimination.
It’s no secret that those persons who “take the 5th” generally have what ordinary persons like myself believe is something to hide, no matter the mouth music from attorneys.
That said, the criticality could potentially be ratcheted up geometrically if Pagliano becomes the first person involved in this series of coverups to hook a deal and spill the proverbial beans. The best deals always get afforded to those who roll the soonest.
In my opinion, there are a helluva lot of beans to spill.
Hillary Clinton and her minions insist that the issues of Benghazi and her servers and her email are nothing but distractions, smoke and mirrors attempting to obfuscate from the real issues of homosexuality, increasing the minimum wage, free upper education, more illegals, politically correct speech. You know, the real issues of the day.
True free-thinking individuals recognize Hillary for what she truly is: a political reptile, as charming as an eastern diamondback rattler and as trustworthy, whose arrogance and sense of entitlement is actually beginning to even stagger the Demorats — to the point where the clouds are parting and Joe Biden is being dusted off in the wings, a top hat clapped on his head.
These days it’s popular to say things matter. Bill Whittle makes an argument for something else mattering:
Yes, things matter. Honesty matters. Fidelity matters. Character matters. The truth matters.
And, all things considered, even the Demorats are beginning to realize that Hillary may be doing nothing more than reliving her previous crash in 2008.
Though Hugh Hewitt thought, once, Hillary Clinton was the proverbial “shoe-in,” it would appear that, possibly, no one yet fits Cinderella’s Demorat slipper.
Hillary Clinton recently spoke to CNN this week about her e-mails, and said that she has never received a subpoena regarding those e-mails. At all. This is unequivocal.
Hillary Clinton: “I’ve never had a subpoena. Let’s take a deep breath here.”
Except that Hillary Clinton lied again.
On the Wednesday edition of the Hugh Hewitt Radio Show, former Representative John Campbell interviewed Rep. Trey Gowdy (R-SC), who is chairman of the House Select Committee on Benghazi. The conversation between Campbell and Gowdy, transcribed by Duane Patterson, producer of the HHRS, is as follows:
The Transcript:
JC: We have with us on the line now Congressman Trey Gowdy and chairman of the House Select Committee on Benghazi. Hey, Trey, great to have you on the show.
TG: Congressman, we miss you, and thank you for having me on.
JC: Well, thank you so much for coming on. Now I’m going to play for you, I’m sure you expected this, the clip from Hillary Clinton yesterday when she was being interviewed on CNN by Brianna Keilar. So please play that clip.
BK: Facing a subpoena, deleted emails from them?
HRC: You know, you’re starting with so many assumptions that are, I’ve never had a subpoena.
JC: I’ve never had a subpoena, her words. Congressman Trey Gowdy, did Hillary Clinton lie yesterday?
TG: Well, she certainly had a subpoena. You know, when you lie, a lie suggests an intent to deceive. I can’t imagine whatever intent she could possibly have. I try not to use the word lie. I can certainly tell you this. It is a fact that there was a subpoena issued to her in March of 2015. But Congressman, it’s also a fact that there was a subpoena in existence from another Congressional committee far before that one. So there are two subpoenas. There are letters from Congress. And there’s a statutoryobligation to her to preserve public records. So whether it’s a subpoena in place or whether it’s a statute in place, or whether it’s a Congressional investigation in place, you can’t delete and wipe out public records.
JC: Now Chairman Gowdy, I have the subpoena that your committee sent out, I have a copy of it, sitting in front of me from March of 2015. But you’re now telling me that there was another one prior to that?
TG: Oh, yes, sir. There was, think back right after Benghazi, Jason Chaffetz wrote a letter to Secretary Clinton, in fact, saying Congress has the right and the authority to investigate these attacks. That is tantamount to a ‘do not destroy’ request. And also keep in mind, Congress wrote her directly when she was Secretary of State and asked her specifically, do you ever use personal email. She never answered that question. She never said yes, she never said no. All right, fast forward. The Oversight Committee is looking into Benghazi. They issued a subpoena to the State Department to bring certain documents over to Congress so we can inspect them. It is that subpoena that ultimately led the State Department to give us the first eight emails we got from her.
JC: And when was that?
TG: We got them in August of…
JC: No, but when was that subpoena?
TG: 2013.
JC: 2013?
TG: Yes, sir.
JC: So she, all right, so, because she had this subpoena in March, 2015, and then you’re saying she had another one in 2013.
TG: There was another one to the State Department. In August of 2013, there were two subpoenas sent to the State Department, which are requests for documents. But as a result of that subpoena to the State Department, the State Department then produced to us her emails. So there is no way to claim that there was not some legal process directing that those emails be retained and ultimately produced, because they were.
JC: Yeah, because I’ve read that her trying to weasel out of this is, out of the lie, and I’m going to use that term, and I’m going to get back to it in a minute, but is that well, I thought that the question was whether I was under any subpoenas when the emails were deleted. And so obviously, she had subpoenas. I mean, there is no way that she didn’t have subpoenas. That’s without question. I’ve got them sitting in front of me. But you’re saying that also, there were subpoenas that covered the deletion of those emails?
TG: There are, there were subpoenas in place well before our committee ever existed.
JC: Right.
TG: There were two, one related to ARB documents, and one related to what we call reading room documents. And they were sent to the Department of State asking that Congress be delivered these documents. Where that becomes important is it was as a result of that oversight subpoena that the Department of State first gave us any of her emails. So clearly, her emails were covered by that subpoena, or the Department of State never would have given them to us. Now her out is going to be this, or what she thinks is her out, well, the State Department didn’t have my emails, I did, which then moves us to the law, the statute, the regulation, which places on her an affirmative duty to protect and preserve public records. So whether there’s a subpoena in place or not, the law is and has been in place, you have to preserve public record. She decided on her own what was and was not public record. And John, what’s even worse than that, I mean, think when she left office. She left office in February of 2013, right?
JC: Right.
TG: She didn’t delete and wipe clean that server until the fall of 2014, 20 months later, after she left.
JC: Indicating to me an intent, and I’m not a lawyer, but an intent to deceive.
TG: Well, at a minimum, that timing is curious, isn’t it?
JC: Yeah.
TG: We’re to the point where the Benghazi Committee is up and running, and they’re putting pressure on the State Department. We want the rest of her emails. And next thing we know, she’s swapping letters with the State Department, not telling us about it, she wipes her server clean. Then the story breaks in 2015, hey, all she used is personal email and she had her own server. That’s when we sent the second subpoena. But that first subpoena was clearly sufficient to cover her emails or the State Department wouldn’t have given them to us.
JC: So Chairman Gowdy, what do you do now? If she destroyed evidence under subpoena, and if, and she is now deepening that lie, what are you going to do about it? What can you do about it?
TG: Well, my first, you know, I had another job before I got to Congress…
JC: Yes.
TG: And that one had certain powers, and different powers than the one I have now. My obligation now is to write the final definitive accounting of what happened in Benghazi, which is why I’m interested in her records. I could care less about yoga and bridesmaids dresses. I want the documents that relate to Benghazi. She claimed that she turned the full record over to the State Department, but we learned a week or so ago that there are at least 15 emails or portions thereof that she did not turn over.
JC: Right.
TG: So you know, at some point, the Speaker has a decision to make, or another committee of Congress has a decision to make. I don’t have the authority to subpoena her server. We have asked her to turn it over to a neutral third party so that person, an archivist, and expert in federal records, can make sure that everything that should be in the public domain is in the public domain. I do not care about her personal stuff. I do care about every document that the media, the public, and Congress is entitled to. And we’ll never know the answer to that question until somebody other than her lawyers looks at the server.
JC: Yeah, and I mean, you know, when she says oh, I turned over, I mean, that’s like in any case, the accused saying well, I made the decision about what evidence might be used or not. No, you don’t make that decision. All the evidence has to be presented, right?
TG: Well, look at the three explanations she’s come up with so far. First thing she said was I used a single device for convenience. Well, we know that’s not true. Then she said oh, those emails from Sidney Blumenthal were unsolicited. Well, we now know that’s not true. But the big thing she said is you don’t need to worry about my email arrangement, because I gave everything to the State Department. I erred on the side of inclusion. And next thing we know, we’re getting emails from Sidney Blumenthal that involve her that she never even turned over to the State Department. So we know what she turned over was not complete, just in the area of Libya. About other countries and other issues when she was the Secretary of State, it’s outside my committee’s lane, but I would think the public and the media and Congress would be interested in whether or not there’s a full record of her tenure as Secretary of State. We know it’s not. We just don’t know how deficient the record is.
JC: Chairman Gowdy, I know you’re reluctance to use the word lie. I had that same reluctance when I wore the Congressional pin. You know, oh, this is not true, it’s a falsehood, it’s blah, blah, blah, all that. There’s so much of this, and so much evidence from this woman now, and she was running for president, and the intent is clearly there that she doesn’t want people to know what she did, I think she is lying.
TG: Well, I typically use the phrase demonstrably false. It is false. I can prove that it’s false, and I can prove that you should have known it was false at the time. What I cannot do is climb into someone’s head. I just can’t do it. But for my purposes, it is enough that I know it was false, it was false at the time you said it, and I can make a pretty good circumstantial case that you should have known it was false.
JC: And there’s an awful lot of them there. Congressman Gowdy, Chairman Gowdy, good luck with whatever you can do and whatever you can do to bring to America the truth about Hillary Clinton, because you will never, ever, ever get it from her.
End of interview.
(Thanks to Duane Patterson and Hugh Hewitt.)
The back-and-forth between Gowdy and Clinton is, naturally, described in the stories of the American Media Maggots as much ado about nothing, conducted by biased persons who have no evidence. Salon magazine calls it an “anti-Hillary witch hunt.”
Why do Republicans and Conservatives and Gowdy continue on with Benghazi? Because four good Americans died at that consulate, the US deserves to know the truth, and too many people are refusing to speak about it or are outright lying about it.
This is why some people will not let Benghazi rest.
Today, Obama looks more like Bush of 2006, when Democrats took back the House: The numbers for Obama are almost identical overall, and the breakdowns by party are as well.
Demorats insist all is well; Obama is in power, the federal government needs to take care of you, you poor ignorant and unwashed masses. All is well, the economy has never been stronger, our social structure has never been more tolerant and forgiving, we are more adored and respected internationally than ever, because we support our friends and eschew our enemies.
Pay no attention to Benghazi, to Fast and Furious, to the IRS, to the NSA, to the CIA, to the cultural crafting and sculpting of our nation, and abuse of our military and our veterans. Pay no attention to the actions of Hillary Clinton, Pelosi, Napolitano, Blum, Lerner.
Pay no attention to the IRS auditing of Dr Ben Carson and various TEA Party organizations. The lies of John Koskines and Lois Lerner.
Pay no attention to the devastating impact of ObamaKare and the fact that Mr Obama nakedly LIED about its affects on your own doctor and your health:
But that was only one of many lies from Mr Obama and his minions. We have CIA Director John Brennan who LIED time and again — but who only became an issue when the CIA began tapping the computers of DC politicians: Things were bad only when their ox was gored.
Pay no attention to the initial LIES of Hillary Clinton involving the assault on the Benghazi consulate — being the result of a lame video created by a federal parolee — that in fact had NO bearing on the killing of four United States citizens. Pay no attention to the callous and arrogant disregard that Hillary Clinton had for said killings:
Pay no attention to the US Debt Clock, and the fact that Mr Obama has racked up more debt than all prior presidents combined, to the tune of $17,906,300,000,000. With a population of 320 million persons, that puts each individual’s unfunded liability at $385,579.49 — for a few minutes. Then it goes up again.
Pay no attention to the fact the Mr Obama was responsible for “Cash for Clunkers” which failed (costing much more than it purported to save), millions to Solyndra (which failed), millions to so-called “green energy” which failed. Pay no attention to the fact that Mr Obama himself decided which automakers would succeed or fail, was responsible for the untold number of car dealerships closing and the laying-off of employees who worked (past tense) there.
People forget that Obama sent actual armed agents to raid the factory of Gibson Guitars, because of limp-wristed and specious allegations about the wood they were using in their instruments. Obama’s NLRB didn’t want Boeing to open a factory in South Carolina because it was a “right to work” state and didn’t mandate employees to be unionized, so they refused to allow Boeing to move. The UAW made off like — literally — bandits when Obama rigged the bankruptcy hearings of Chrysler and GM when bondholders and creditors were kicked aside. Ford, you recall, didn’t take government bailout cash.
The BP oil spill occurred because EPA and environmental regulations mandate that drilling rigs be located so far from our shores; the further from shore, the deeper the drilling and the more unstable and difficult the drilling and the platform. Don’t forget, Obama sent millions of dollars to Brazil in order for them to drill off their shores. Drill of our own shores, closer? No way.
Let’s continue to talk about oil. Mr Obama clearly embraces Blood Oil and Conflict Oil, just as he eschews Conflict Diamonds or Blood Diamonds. No matter that untold persons are killed in the Middle East because of the issue of oil. We could be well on our way to energy independence in an agreement with Canada involving the Keystone XL pipeline but, no, Mr Obama prefers to limit our own drilling and fracking so that we are dependent on external oil sources. This makes no sense whatsoever.
All during this time, however, according to the American Media Maggot lapdogs, Mr Obama can do little if anything wrong. The AMM continue to wear their Official Obaka Blinders gift set.
Mr Obama has set some remarkable precedent by writing a host of Executive Orders that purposely have bypassed the US Congress because he perceives they are not lining up appropriately for his wishes. His has become an Imperial Presidency that minds not ruling by fiat.
In that vein, His Imperial Highness has deigned that illegal immigrants will be granted roughly blanket amnesty, moving this country from a “nation of laws” into the “nation of the lawless” category. Numerous border Sheriffs and Chiefs have said that, if amnesty is granted, the floodgates will be opened and there will be no turning off the spigot.
Pay no attention to the thousands and thousands of illegal immigrant South American children imported into this country carrying diseases that — oh no! — brought disease to our own children, to include the enterovirus, according to the CDC. Thank you kindly, Mr Obama, for ensuring our borders continue to be porous. We need more Mexican criminals and imported diseases we haven’t seen for years.
Let us not forget Mr Obama’s smooth tactical move in releasing five Guantanamo terrorist leaders in exchange for the absconding traitor Bowe Bergdahl. Brilliant, that.
The VA absolutely fell apart under Mr Obama, resulting in the forced resignation of General John Shinseki. Nicely monitored, sir; you continue to show you couldn’t care less about our military personnel on duty, and their care after service.
Let’s not forget about the truthful, honest and humble Kathleen Sebelius, whose selling of ObakaKare was in conflict with her simultaneously tasked with enforcing it. An abomination of arrogance and incompetency. Goodbye, bitch. Write when you find work.
Who listened to the private phone calls of Fox News reporter James Rosen under Obama? Some Republican?
The EPA under Director Lisa Jackson harassed businesses. Anyone remember or care?
Let us not forget: most everything done under Obama simply fails. Despite Mr Obama being in control of the Spite House Bully Pulpit, the American Media Maggots and the US Senate. How is this possible?
Let us not forget: Mr Obama believed that the Fort Hood Shooting was nothing more than an itty-bitty bit of occasional workplace violence. “Allahu Akhbar” just doesn’t factor, as exclaimed by Nidal. Likewise the Oklahoma beheading of a female employee by an Islamist trying to convert fellow employees is simply another untidy bit of workplace violence. Vaughn, CEO of the business, according to Obama, was out-of-order in shooting at the Muslim. Clearly, Vaughn was a Religionist and hates Muslims.
Healthcare.gov? The million-dollar website that never worked? Fabulous, that.
Let’s not forget Obama’s sotto voce to Russia’s Medvedev:
Further, “you didn’t build that.”
At least Hillary Clinton is in keeping with Barack Hussein Obama. Businesses and corporations don’t create jobs.
Lets examine, photographically, some of the other so-called “highlights” of Demorat control these past years under Mr Obama. Be warned: the truth isn’t pretty.
Christopher Stevens.
Grateful Mexicans.
What Mr Obama wants to actively import into the United States: Mexican Cartel activity.
And, of course, women in full BeeKeeper costumes.
Yes, this election isn’t about nothing. It’s about everything.
Mr Obama recently said of these elections: “Now, I am not on the ballot this fall . . . but make no mistake, these policies are on the ballot — every single one of them.”
Let us not forget the most ridiculous quote to issue from a politician’s pie-hole in quite some time:
Of course it’s not corporation and businesses who create jobs; as far as Leftists are concerned, only the gubmint can do that — through their all-caring, all-controlling, all-regulated benevolence.
To think that someone this stupid, arrogant, daft and bordering on insane spewing a statement like that is actually admired by people. Tells you quite a bit about women, NOW, the Demorat Party and anyone sufficiently brain-dead to consider voting for her.
Just as the NPD-ridden Mr Obama stated “you didn’t build that” to businesses, Shrillary Clinton now has her very own moronic catch-phrase for Republicans to trot about the politisphere for good measure.
Oh that’s right, they won’t. The GOP hasn’t a clue how to fight a political battle.
Further, were they turned over to the FBI from a hacker who, first, attempted to sell them to interested parties?
