Saturday’s ABC GOP debate

Samsung Note 4, 2-6-2016 201For the first time ever, all the Republican candidates for president are gathered upon one stage in New Hampshire, including Donald Trump.  He eschewed Iowa now decides to partake of New Hampshire.  Did his loss to Ted Cruz possibly have something to do with it?

You can see by the above photograph who is where in terms of the New Hampshire polls.

Seven candidates appeared on stage, to include Ted Cruz, Marco Rubio, John Kasich, Donald Trump, Ben Carson, Chris Christie and Jeb Bush.  Carly Fiorina was not included.

The Debate Begins.

What was the deal with Ben Carson and Donald Trump waiting behind for everyone else?  The introduction procedure was terrible and uncoordinated.

Ted Cruz is humble with regard to faux pas regarding Ben Carson and apologized then explained.

Rubio was asked to explain his accomplishments as senator, then charged off with vigor and focused on Barack Obama.

Christie came out swinging for Marco Rubio as senator and accused him of truancy.  Christie was making the difference between a senator and a governor in terms of critical decisions.  A nice dust-up between the two.

Cruz made a nice point about North Korea and a potential orbiting satellite kicking off an EMP over the United States.  I’m glad to see that the EMP issue is on the table in public.

John Kasich stepped in on North Korea, and Bush said he’d consider a preemptive strike against a North Korean missile launch.

Rubio nailed it with regard to Obama believing that the US is an arrogant global power that needs to be cut down to size, is too powerful, and creates problems for the rest of the world.  That Obama thinks if we create separation from Israel it will help our relations in the Islamic world.  And the same with the Asia-Pacific region with concessions to North Korea.

Christie understands the paradigm between hostage and paying ransom as in, you don’t do it.  At all.  Ever.

Kasich thinks it is, however, okay for 11.5 million illegals to “pay back taxes and a fine,” and be left in place.  Illegals will not pay back taxes nor will they pay a fine nor will courts hold them to that.  That is why Kasich is wrong on illegal immigration.

Like Cruz said, you build a wall, end sanctuary cities, build a wall and stop business from being able to employ illegals.  That is only logical.

Standard Trump: “let me talk, quiet.”  Boos for Trump.  And eminent domain.

Rubio brought up essentially the 10th Amendment with regard to enumerated powers and all other areas of power belonging to the states.  I like and want to hear that.

Christie made an excellent point about raising taxes on millionaires and people then fleeing New Jersey, taking their money with them.  As in: it won’t work.

Cruz espoused my ideals with waging war: kill people, break shit, don’t nation-build and then get out.  Yes.  Precisely, Ted.

Rubio showed a good understanding of the war in the Middle East, ISIS, and the differences between Sunni and Shia.

Frankly, I’m tired of Carson’s “underdog” shtick.  “I’m not up here just to add beauty to the stage.”  If you want to make a point, Carson, step in.  Bully in.  Show some huevos.  You can’t complain about no recognition and not be assertive.  That speaks much about you, Dr Carson.  You’re a nice man and a good man but you are not cut out for the presidency.

Points to Rubio about Guantanamo.

To this point ABC News is presenting the debate as the Rise of the Governors.  I have to admit that it appeared Kasich was doing better.  Christie made good points as he normally does, in my estimation.

A side note.  I very much dislike Martha Radish and her condescending smirk.

An interesting notation: “none of you on stage tonight have served in the military.”  Excellent point.  I hadn’t realized that.

Once again the Leftist panel tried to trap Republicans with the “ransom” question, such as involved James and Diane Foley,  They wish to portray Republicans as cold and cruel.  Luckily Cruz and Trump stuck to their ransom guns.

So who won?

Kasich sounded a bit better but his immigration stance is wrong.  I always enjoy Christie, who did very well tonight.  Carson was completely unimpressive.  Jeb Bush was likewise unimpressive.  Too little too late.  There were no real flame wars as expected.  Trump was Trump, much generality but little detail.  “We will win, we will win and we will win.”  Rubio came off well and Cruz not so abrasive.  The boos tonight, I noted, were for Trump.  I’d still go:

  1. Cruz
  2. Rubio
  3. Christie
  4. Trump

This, I do not believe, was much of a game-changer for any single political candidate.

BZ

GOP Debate 2-6-2016 New Hampshire

Thursday GOP debates: who “won”?

GOP Debate, Fox, 1-28-20161. Small Table Debate:

The small table debate, held first, was moderated by Bill Hemmer and Martha MacCallum and consisted of Carly Fiorina, Mike Huckabee, Rick Santorum, and Jim Gilmore.

There is only one clear winner: Carly Fiorina.  Period.  The three others simply need to go away as rapidly as possible.  I think that may be a self-fulfilling prophecy within, say, two weeks max.  None of them are going to pull Iowa.

2. Main Debate:

In the second debate, Bret Baier, Chris Wallace and Megyn Kelly moderated, and the big table cast included Ted Cruz, Marco Rubio, Ben Carson, Jeb Bush, Chris Christie, John Kasich, Rand Paul and Jim Gilmore.  Who?

As expected, Gilmore was entirely unimpressive.  One must also question his sanity as, at this late stage, he somehow thinks he has a chance at becoming the GOP nominee for president.

Kasich was acidic and unlikeable.  Carson was likeable but vastly over his pate.  Paul is going nowhere.  His fans are even more annoying than he is.  All three need to go away.

Christie was the healing assembler he’s tended to be in the past.  I could live with Christie.  “The days of the Clintons in public housing are over.”  “That is why you need the Washinton-to-English converter.”

The focus this time around revolved around the nascent sorting-out of Cruz and Rubio.  Both made points.  Both were confronted by Megyn Kelly with prior statements in conflict with their current positions.  Both stammered and both came through. Conventional wisdom is that Rubio is ascending.  I go along with that.

Jeb Bush did well overall; certainly better than previous debates.  But Bush is still who he is, a squish.  I will not put another Bush in the White House as I will never put another Clinton in the White House.

I am biased.  I just like Cruz.  He’s extremely smart and even pisses off Republicans because he is single-minded.  Yes, Cruz got bopped, Cruz got testy, Cruz got booed.  Cruz had his opportunity to shine more, but didn’t quite pull that off.  Call me wacky.  I am biased.

My top three descend in this order:

  1. Cruz
  2. Rubio
  3. Christie

Statistics from a current Drudge Report poll post-debate.

Drudge Report GOP PollCruz #2, Rubio #3.

Finally, did Trump leaving the debate affect the results?  In terms of the debaters themselves, not so much.  Ted Cruz got the insults out of the way early.  However, for Fox News, they now state Thursday’s FNC debate was the second highest rated telecast in the channel’s history with 12.5 million viewers.  Conventional wisdom said this wouldn’t occur.  Though not present, the moderators and debaters still mentioned him.  And people say the “entertainment” factor of Trump was missed.

But one thing most definitely: Trump would not have cared for the way Megyn Kelly would have gone after him, if her tenacity with Rubio and Cruz was any indicator.  Megyn Kelly can indeed shred.

Did Trump pull off his tactic?  In a word, yes.  I don’t think he “lost” anything by not attending.  But I still enjoyed the debate because it was substantial and topic-driven for the most part.

BZ

 

Thursday GOP debates: First Debate

Donald Trump NOT In Thursday 1-28-2016 Debates1. Small Table Debate:

The small table debate, held first, was moderated by Bill Hemmer and Martha MacCallum and consisted of Carly Fiorina, Mike Huckabee, Rick Santorum, and Jim Gilmore.

There is only one clear winner: Carly Fiorina.  Period.  The three others simply need to go away as rapidly as possible.  I think that may be a self-fulfilling prophecy within, say, two weeks max.  None of them are going to pull Iowa.

More after the main debate.

BZ

 

Thursday GOP debate: no Trump

Donald Trump NOT In Thursday 1-28-2016 DebatesDonald Trump has stated he will not appear at Thursday’s Fox News GOP debate due to perceived slights by Megyn Kelly.

This stems from the first Republican debate on August 6th of last year, co-moderated by Megyn Kelly.

She asked Trump at that time, “One of the things people love about you is you speak your mind and you don’t use a politician’s filter.  However, that is not without its downside, in particular when it comes to women.  You have called women you don’t like ‘fat pigs,’ ‘dogs,’ ‘slobs’ and ‘disgusting animals.’  Your Twitter account.  .  .”

Trump: “Only Rosie O’Donnell.”

Kelly: “No it wasn’t.  Your Twitter account.  .  .for the record, it was well beyond Rosie O’Donnell.

Trump: “Yes, I’m sure it was.”

Kelly: “Your Twitter account has several disparaging comments about women’s looks.  You once told a contestant on Celebrity Apprentice it would be a pretty picture to see her on her knees.  Does that sound to you like the temperament of a man we should elect as president?  And how will you answer the charge with Hillary Clinton who is likely to be the Democratic nominee that you are part of the war on women?”

Mr Trump believes that question evidenced bias on the part of Megyn Kelly.  He said that Roger Ailes (Chairman and CEO of Fox News) should have Megyn Kelly banned from Thursday’s debate staff.

In my opinion, Trump has made a serious mistake by showing his skirt, so to speak.  If Megyn Kelly offended him then and offends him during the debate, then he needs to stand there and defend himself, and to dish back as he sees fit.

It’s what he does and what people expect to see.

The retort “if he can’t handle Kelly then how would he handle Putin” is trite but has a semblance of accuracy.  For history, at one point early in her McCain/VP campaign I was in support of Sarah Palin.  However, once she resigned as Alaska governor in 2009, I knew she couldn’t take the heat.  At least she did the right thing and got out of the kitchen.  Since then I’ve known that Palin is a poseur.  And no, she never said she could see Russia from her house.

With that in mind, Trump takes the easy or cowardly way out.  Yes, you can readily reply that Trump is a bit in Hillary’s position where any further exposure can be deleterious to his campaign.  But that would be wrong, because Trump absolutely thrives in a clashing and adversarial environment.  He enjoys it.  What he doesn’t enjoy is being faced with his own statements.

If Trump made various statements he should either own them or refute them.

But stepping away from a debate because he doesn’t like someone who asked him a tough question smacks of “taking his toys and going home.”

The Iowa caucus is next Monday, February 1st.  (Go here to see how the Iowa caucuses work.)

Because of that I’ll be watching the debates anyway, as I want to see how Cruz, Rubio and Christie conduct themselves tonight, and how the interplay goes between them.

Bret Baier, Chris Wallace and Megyn Kelly will moderate the Thursday debate, whose big table cast will include Ted Cruz, Marco Rubio, Ben Carson, Jeb Bush, Chris Christie, John Kasich, and Rand Paul.

The small table debate, held first, will be moderated by Bill Hemmer and Martha MacCallum and will consist of Carly Fiorina, Mike Huckabee, Rick Santorum, and Jim Gilmore.  I’ll believe that Jim Gilmore thingie when I see it.

I’ll be watching the debates and then posting about them later tonight.

BZ

 

“And then there were three”

GOP Debate 1-14-2016No, that’s not a reference to the group Genesis when lead singer Peter Gabriel and guitarist Steve Hackett had departed.

It’s a reference to the only three GOP presidential candidates who are still viable.

Thursday’s debate featured Chris Christie, Donald Trump, Jeb Bush, Ben Carson, John Kasich, Ted Cruz and Marco Rubio.

Cruz answers the “New York” question with logic whilst Trump conflates conservatives, Manhattan and 9/11. Hubcaps and fruitbats, Mr Trump.

Rand Paul was not present because of his failure to make the varsity squad.  He decided to take all his toys and go home.  Ho-hum, no loss.  The “undercard” debate is here.

The three remaining feasible presidential candidates in the GOP race are Donald Trump, Ted Cruz and Marco Rubio.  I would, however, throw Chris Christie into the mix as a proverbial wild card.

John Kasich is estimably a zero, Jeb Bush continues to disappoint and Ben Carson, though likely a dear man, has proven once and for all that he is nowhere prepared to take the office of president.  Frankly, Ben Carson was embarrassing to watch.

People say the GOP is falling apart.  Certainly there is tension and discontent between what I term the GOPEE (GOP Establishment Elite) and the conservative, fresher elements of the Republican Party.  Fractious, yes, but not moribund just yet.

People are forgetting what’s occurring directly across the street.

Hillary Clinton is fragmenting and beginning to implode herself.  Her numbers are plummeting.  Some analysts are saying Hillary is back in 2008.  Voters don’t trust her and, evidently, she doesn’t trust them either.

Finally, the GOP fog is beginning to clear.

I say: it’s about time.

Time to focus.

BZ