Race or cause: Leftists, which do you pick?

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First, watch the video.

Then, as the good little anarchist Leftist that you are, you’re going to have to make a decision because this potentially places you in a bit of a political jam.

Do you come to the aid of the Caucasoid male who represents Antifa, or do you come to the aid of the black male who apparently is not Antifa — and in this case that’s apparently all it takes to pull out the Antifa aggression, foul language, suppression of speech and threats of violence.

Please also note the many other Antifa members wearing masks in order to conceal their identities but the primary Antifa mouth doesn’t want a camera around. Bit of a hypocrite, I’d wager. I’m being quite kind.

As a Leftist you must of course choose one of these persons to support. Let’s do the analytics.

The Caucasoid represents Antifa. That is an excellent group doing excellent business on behalf of anti-Fascists the world over. Antifa must stand up to people and disallow them from speaking or weighing in. It’s only fair. It’s Antifa’s time, no one else’s.

The man who appears to be not a friend of Antifa is black. We do not know his affiliation. All we know is that he must apparently be a bad or repressive person because Antifa does not like him and is hurling bad words at him.

After much taunting and yelling and aggression and the threat of violence, the black young man pops the Antifa Caucasoid. Antifa responds to the black young man and tells him to “knock it off.”

  • Caucasoid = Antifa = Antifa good.
  • Young black man = not Antifa = not good.

If you support the young black man you do not support Antifa. If you do not support Antifa you must be the Fascists that Antifa is warning about.

If you support the Caucasoid you do not support the young black man. If you do not support the young black man you may be a racist.

Oh my, such a terrible conundrum, what to do?

I know: support Antifa and make sure that no one sees you taunt and threaten the young black man.

That’s the ticket.

BZ

 

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6 thoughts on “Race or cause: Leftists, which do you pick?”

  1. My comment here is not on the actual topic, but more to the annoying assholes with the jackets and flag in your face in order to avoid a video witness. I have seen way too many videos where people block others from seeing or taking video by putting hands in your face, putting bodies in front of you, or in this case, a flag in your face or a jacket. I see this way too often, and the people being blocked do nothing. I can only guess because they feel they have no right to stop the person from doing so, and if they did, they would be in trouble for “starting” a fight.

    It frustrates me that people do nothing about it, and instead just keep trying to avoid the blocking. They think they have no right to strike back. Well, here’s the deal. If someone shoves a flag in your face, or blocks you from moving forward or shoves your camera away…that my friends is and assault, possible aggravated assault, and maybe even battery. If you are walking along and someone puts something in your way causing you to strike it…you did not hit them…they stuck you. And you now have full justification to defend yourself.

    So, if someone shoves a flag in your face, like here in this video, you may now take the flag and shove it up his ass…err, I mean defend yourself. When the cops come, you tell them how they tried to strike you with a flagpole, which is a large stick, and you defended yourself. If they put a hand in your face, then break it. You defended yourself.

    People do not have the right to block you then when you run into them, yell that your started it. You have a right to walk forward, and you have a right to look forward. Anything blocking you is an assault and possibly a battery.

    An assault from a legal standpoint is an apprehension of an unwanted touching. It need not be harmful…just imminent and unwanted. It certainly helps if you can argue that there is also an apparent ability to cause harm. Shoving a flag attached to a flagpole in your face, mere inches from possibly striking you, is enough to believe the intent is to possibly strike you. I do not believe that it matters if the person with the flag says he had no intention of striking you, but that could the person who had the flag shoved at them, reasonably infer that contact could be made. It doesn’t have to be harmful contact….just contact or the belief of imminent contact.

    So, if someone blocks you, or shoves something at you, a flag, a posterboard, or anything, well, that is assault and you need not take it. And because they used an implement other than their hand, I could probably make a darn good argument that it is aggravated assault. The aggravated part comes from the fact that a weapon or implement was used. Something other than bare hands.

    Now this could be considered a grey area and maybe this could be inferred differently by some, but someone who is angry, is directing that anger at you, comes at you with something in their hands that could be construed as a weapon, and places it in your face, and you have a reasonable expectation that you could be hit with it…well, you have assault and a right to defend yourself. You do NOT have to wait to be hit. As long as you reasonably believed that a battery could result.

    Some people will say that you have to be in fear, but from a legal standpoint, that is not so. You need not be in fear of your life, but only the apprehension of an imminent unwanted touching.

    And when the cop comes, it’s all in how you articulate it to them. Be prepared to make your case. The cop, if he or she is decent, will side with you as long as you can convince him or her that you were defending yourself from an assault…an imminent, unwanted and uninvited, and possibly harmful touching. Show them the video if you have it. If it shows what you say it does, you will be okay.

    So, next time someone gets in your face…defend yourself.

  2. In addition, there is no doubt that the flag holder is a willing accomplice of everything that happens later. This is a group assault. The man-thing is offering a threat and closing distance and the flag waver is blocking view to help in assisting the obvious assault that is about to come. They are as much a part of the crime as the get away driver in a robbery. Further, everyone there with a black facemask is likely guilty of conspiracy. They went there together, planned ahead and coordinated to commit a crime. The police should be doing a cordon and sweep to bag them all, if they really cared about law, order and peaceful streets. But they don’t. Anti-fa is a democratic party ally. so in democrat controlled cities, they are above the law.

  3. I guess it should be safe to assume the cops in California are a bit more liberal. I would still think that if someone shoves a flagpole or a hand in your face, you have the right to knock it away. No one gets to to that to you, even if they aren’t touching you.

    Kinda like when we were kids when your sibling puts his or her finger a micro-inch away from your face then uses the excuse they are doing nothing wrong because they are technically NOT touching you. You have an expected area around you that no one should be allowed to violate. You don’t get to stick things in peoples faces and expect no retaliation.

    Now, I am not saying go full blown ass-whipping (yet), but if someone shoves his hand or a stick that could be used as a weapon in your face, and does so angrily with the intent to strike fear, then you get to respond. You can push it away, and if they continue, you can escalate to the point of taking further action to keep them from continuing. If they ramp it up, you get to as well. Once someone starts something, that does not mean you can only respond with the same level as they do. You get to take any measure needed in order to stop the threat.

    Now this certainly does not mean severe bodily injury or death…but if they get their hand broken after continuously shoving it in your face, well that is the cost of doing business, and it wouldn’t have happened had they not kept it up.

    I feel confident that any reasonable cop here in south FL would not arrest you, and would actually find grounds to arrest the idiot who got his hand busted for being the initial aggressor.

    Here, it’s all about who started it…not who made first contact. It sucks that cops in some areas feel that it is okay to assist the wrong doers because they have the same ideology.

    In the words of a great and wise black man…”Don’t start nothin…won’t be nothin”

    • I cannot speak for other state laws. But in Fornicalia inserting a flag between a civilian camera and other civilians won’t get you arrested. That is no 240/242 PC. Further, if in fact you found an officer willing to go to that length to do so, he or she would be issuing a citation.

      Most likely, to protect himself and because he was not immediately present to witness the event, he’d insist that you make a citizen’s arrest of the suspect under 837 PC. It is illegal in Fornicalia for a peace officer to refuse to accept a citizen’s arrest. The legal consequences of the arrest are not on the officer, however, but on YOU as to its lawfulness as later determined by a court. The officer has nothing to do with the event except as a processor.

      Disposition of the arrest is another thing entirely. Once the arrest is accepted and paperwork completed at the scene, it is up to the officer as to whether he transports the suspect to a jail facility or whether he cites and releases at the scene.

      In a high percentile of the times a citation is issued, a notice to appear (which the suspect signs) given, and the suspect is released.

      The DA, later, at intake, would larf you out of his or her office depending on the political prairie winds of the day.

      BZ

  4. Wow, they certainly do things different in CA. Citizen’s arrest? I understand that I do not have near the experience in law enforcement as BZ here, and I was a cop for only a few years before going to law school. And yes, I interned at the state attorney’s office, worked for a while with the Veteran’s Affairs law enforcement agency, as well as the military court systems, and yet, I have never heard of a citizen’s arrest as a part of anything here in Florida. I have heard of citizen’s arrest in TV and movies, and thought maybe it was something they did long ago, when cops weren’t everywhere. I had no idea it was still done today and in other states.

    The closest thing we had to a citizen’s arrest, was way back, before the year 2000, when I was still a rookie, and for the first few years, and only for misdemeanors not witnessed by law enforcement, you could refer a citizen to the SAO, where they would file the case themselves. You would hand the complainant a card with the contact info for the SAO, and tell them they could file their case themselves…no police needed. It was like small claims court, but for criminal, not civil. It was great when us cops didn’t want to bother with stupid crap, we simply referred people to the SAO to file the case themselves.

    But then, about 2002, the state attorneys who probably got sick and tired of dealing with all the whiny idiots filing stupid cases every time someone kinda sorta broke the law, changed the rules and citizens were no longer allowed to file cases themselves. All misdemeanors, witnessed by us or not, had to now be filed by law enforcement. So we did…only to have 99% of them null filed (turned down for prosecution).

    What resulted was cops looking for anyway possible to turn every stupid misdemeanor into a Non-Crime Report. Oh, someone touched you and you could have been hurt…no crime there. You say he took your pencil, I’ll get right on that. It was ridiculous. We were forced to deal with every whiny nitwit who thought a crime had been committed.

    So, I guess my point is, never heard of citizen’s arrest here.

    I guess all states have different ways of how the enforce the law. After 9/11, we hired about half a dozen NY cops that wanted out. From talking to them, I learned that NY cops, when they make arrests, have to walk their arrestees to court, and stay with them for hours as they go thru the system, all the way to arraignment…or something like that. It seemed so wasteful and awkward compared to how we do arrests here in FL.

    So, I guess the moral of the story here is…there are so many different ways law enforcement works.

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