“Undecideds” vs “Nonvoters:” is the election in their hands because “They’re too busy, fed up or say their vote doesn’t count”– ?

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From NBCNews.com:

Political pundits say undecided voters will determine the election, but little is said about people like Brown, King and Lala, who aren’t voting. Since the 1960s, voter turnout has steadily declined in the U.S., which already ranks near the bottom among established democracies. In 2008, 64 percent of voting-age citizens voted, compared with 93 percent in Chile, 86 percent in Germany and 74 percent in Canada.

Frankly, it was the “decided not to vote, stayed at home” persons — mostly Conservatives — who put Mr Obama in the White House in 2008.

Thanks, guys.

Further:

NBC News recently asked readers via Twitter, Facebook and through NBCNews.com to tell us why they won’t cast their ballots. Their responses paralleled those from a 2008 survey by the U.S. Census Bureau: They don’t like their choices, they’re busy or they’re not interested.

“Everyone’s pressed for time these days and therefore whether or not an employer is actively allowing people to vote the employees may feel time-pressed or constrained to take that legally protected time,” said Susan Schoenfeld, senior legal editor for Business & Legal Resources, which provides guidance to employers on human resources issues.

Back in 2008, I KNOW there was a rather large contingent of Conservatives who simply decided to stay home on Big Tuesday.

What do you think now?

I know there will be a certain percentile of lazy persons who will stay home simply “because.”  They are the uninvolved, the disinterested, the indifferent.

But “undecided”?

I ask again: how incredibly stupid must you be to choose this category?  Even elementary school children can see through the ways of Mr Obama.

BZ

 

 

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21 thoughts on ““Undecideds” vs “Nonvoters:” is the election in their hands because “They’re too busy, fed up or say their vote doesn’t count”– ?”

  1. To quote: “Frankly, it was the “decided not to vote, stayed at home” persons — mostly Conservatives — who put Mr Obama in the White House in 2008.”

    And it was the GOP that could not come with a real conservative candidate and served up John McCain expecting somehow that people would vote for him as the lesser of two evils. Didn’t happen, at least not enough. If Mittens get elected tomorrow, it will be a squeaker and for much the same reasons. Mitt Romney is not a conservative. I don’t like his record as Gov. of Massachusetts and I don’t trust him to keep the promises he has made to conservatives if he wins.

    Do you really think he will overturn Obama-care? I don’t. I think he’ll settle for some half-hearted bill that tweaks it.

    Gun control? Did you hear his answer in the last debate? He not only signed the Massachusetts “Assault Weapons Ban”, he bragged about it.

    And the true crushing issue of our time, the debt and the deficit. Do you think he will submit a balanced budget to Congress, spend about half of what is being currently spent, and begin to pay down the National Debt?

    I think Mitt might win tomorrow, but I think a whole of people that vote for him will be deeply disappointed in the next 4 years.

    I’m going to vote for Gary Johnson.

      • Thanks, Fred. I make a thoughtful reasoned decision to vote for a candidate whose positions and ideas I support, and your response really helped me change my mind.

        • If you support OPEN BORDERS, Free and Legal dope and basic stupidity, yeah, I can see where Gary Johnson would be your choice…

          I stand by my assessment, anyone that votes for Johnson is a MORON… And dude, you just gave Obama another vote, you MORON…

          • Fred, I see you trollin’ now. If the best reason you can give me to vote for your candidate is, “BECAUSE OTHERWISE IT’S OBAMA !! OMG11ELEVENTY!!11!”, then you have no reasons.

            Sorry, BZ, I was just trying to explain why I thought a good number of conservatives were not voting, and probably hadn’t voted since Bob Dole ran. Fred kinda gave the GOP response, which as you might imagine turns people off even further.

            • The only ones turned off by it are MORONS that vote for assholes like Ron Paul and Gary Johnson.. Stick the TROLL stuff up your ass, I too have an opinion, and that is ANYONE voting for Gary Johnson is an Obama supporter by proxy..

              Fools, one and all…

    • You know, that’s good that you’re going to vote. I’ve looked at Johnson and some of his ideas make sense. When the Libertarians, however, get into open borders and free dope then my line is drawn.

      That said, Romney MAY have issues with guns and debt. But I’m not convinced. Running the nation isn’t like running Massachusetts, a rather liberal state as we all know. I compare him to Schwarzenegger, who started off rather conservatively and then had his ass handed to him during his immediate run of propositions. The teachers unions and SEIU defeated him resoundingly and killed every good proposition he advocated. He learned quickly: get in line if you want to stay in politics. So he caved. But I know why.

      Will Romney cave? As I say, I’m not convinced. But I AM convinced that a second term with Obama will further ruin the nation.

      One little thing: Ryan will be whispering sweet nothings into Romney’s ear when and if he starts to go moderate to Left. Ryan is the new generation and KNOWS his budgets. Obama received NOT ONE VOTE for his budget; Ryan’s received almost a majority.

      Voting is good. Staying away because of disinterest gets you no “investment in the company,” so to speak. And no investment gets no platform to speak or complain.

      BZ

  2. I have heard it all, the same line you use here, too tired, too fed up, it doesn’t count and you know, to those people I say, SHUT THE FUCK UP and stop bitching about the way things go in the USA.. If you don’t vote you have NO right to gripe about ANYTHING!

  3. ASM, if you do NOT live in a “swing state”, then vote for whomever you want, BUT, if you DO live IN a “swing state”, please think about a couple more frigging Sotomeyer clones sitting on the Supreme Court bench if Bozo the Clown is reelected. After that, if you DO vote for anyone other than Mitt Romney and Paul Ryan, then Texas Fred is 1000% right about you!

  5. Okay, Fred, I hope your man wins. Mostly so I can see what sort of left leaning SCOTUS picks he makes. I’m telling you, you’re buying a pig in a poke. Romney is not going to reverse the decline, balance the budget, or face the debt. You can get angry and type out cuss words, but you lost me as a reader and supporter today, something both sad and unnecessary.

  6. Like it or not, we live in a two-party nation. Sure, there’s candidates out there that might stand for some things that sound nice, but they don’t stand a snowball’s chance in hell of winning. Both of the candidates that are actually in this race are less than desirable, to say the least, but one is clearly worse than the other and, in my opinion, downright dangerous for this nation. In the mean time, SCOTUS is going to need some seats filled; who of the two is the better choice to appoint those? Will your (allegedly) morally superior decision to vote for some obscure candidate matter when a blatant socialist is appointing SCOTUS justices?

    Fred’s delivery may be tactless, but he’s simply pointing out the obvious.

  7. So they are calling it for Obama, it won’t even be close electorally. I agree with all of you about what happens next.

    But the way Fred treated me here wasn’t just tactless, it was mean spirited and wrong.

    And if every vote for Johnson had gone for Romney (which they would not have, more of his voters came from the Democratic side), it would have come out the same. Conservatives, as BZ pointed out, could have won this election if they had just come out and voted. They did not. There’s a lesson there for next time, if there’s anything left.

    • Look, personalities well up and subsume.

      It’s not about TF or me or you.

      We have a difference of opinion.

      It’s about RESULTS.

      And boy, sure as shit, we are about to pay a MAJOR price.

      BZ

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